K1N Interview for MDXC by W0GJ

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1- The 1st question is “mandatory” Dott. Glenn: it has been 25 years from the last activity in KP1.   This made of Navassa the Most Wanted #1. How did you feel being part of the team?

 

We have been working on getting permission to operate from Navassa (and Desecheo) since 1998.   It has been a very long and difficult road working to get permission from the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service who has jurisdiction over these entities.   We had two Congressional hearings in Washington, D.C., and several presentations and several appeal hearings (like a court hearing) at various high level USFWS offices.   In 2009 we were granted permission for Desecheo (K5D) and we thought that Navassa would follow within 18-24 months.   However, several key individuals retired and several were re-assigned to other posts and Navassa never happened.   We literally had to start completely over with presentations and hearings. A small team of us (the KP1-5 Project) have spent untold thousands of hours working on this project. Consequently, the pressure to perform and make Navassa a successful operation was enormous.   We carefully selected a team that were not only good operators, but experienced in logistics and other needed skills.   During the entire preparatory time and during the operation there was not one instance of conflict or personality problems.   We were focused to work together as a team and to be as efficient as possible.


2- Wich difficultier did you find (logistics, transposts, setup…) befre launchng the 1st CQ?

 

The most difficult thing was to find transportation.   We found a nice ship with a helicopter but the cost was astronomical.   We were very fortunate to find the Helidosa Helicopter Company in the Dominican Republic who operates all over the Caribbean as the most experienced with an impeccable safety record.   They had a large Bell 212 which could carry 1000+ kg of cargo when fully loaded with fuel.   (However, because of the extra fuel tanks needed for a round trip, the cargo was limited to 700 kg.   Because of this limitation and the almost $10,000 cost of a round trip to/from Jamaica, we came up with an MVC (minimally viable configuration) plan.   This would get the team, infrastructure, food, water, radios and antennas in place.   We were required by USFWS to have a support vessel, but January-February are the worst months for rough seas. (As it turned out, our support vessel was only able to be on station about 60% of the time because of high seas).   We had basically only one day when we could off-load some extra supplies from the vessel.   We could not bring any cooking or kitchen equipment, so we relied on MRE (the military meals-ready-to-eat) rations and water.   Water cost about $50/gallon (11 Euro/liter) delivered!!!   USFWS would not let us go at any other time of the year because the January-February time has the least bird nesting. We had seven flights to the island and only four flights returning, as a lot of the initial weight was food, water and gasoline.   (The helicopter also had about 10 hours of total ferry time between their base in the DR and Jamaica.)

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3- European stations complained a lot for the short time you applied during the best openings towards Europe. It has been your strategy or what?

 

QUITE THE CONTRARY!!!!!!

This is a MOST interesting point of discussion!

If you look at our logs, we spent MORE time working Europe than working North America. Our ClubLog statistics however show that North America had 58% of the contacts, Europe 32% and Asia 6%.

 

WHY, then, if MORE time was spent working EU, was EU about half the number of NA contacts???

Simple answer: RATE.   Period.

When you listened to us working NA, we could cruise right along at 300-350 Q’s/hour.   When working EU, we would be extremely lucky to see rates of 125 Q’s/hour. EU signals are as strong, if not stronger than NA signals, in the Caribbean. The west coast U.S. is much harder to work than EU.

Here is a quote I received after I returned home.   It is from a well-known DXer in Europe:

“I listened to XXX working US pile-up on 80m. Fantastic, at least 10 QSO’s minute and when he turned to listen for Europe, the rate was only 10 % of that.   Same on the other bands and modes.”

The problem is THROUGHPUT.   Rate. Efficiency. Cooperation. Whatever you want to call it.

For the time we spent working Europe, we should have MORE contacts than with North America, but that did not happen.   I COULD have happened!

No one more than me would like to have seen the EU Q’s outnumber NA Q’s.   For the “next one” I have some helpful suggestions to help those in EU to be more successful.

Here is what I see are the issues:

 

  1. Not listening to the DX operator
  2. LISTEN to and LEARN the rate and rhythm of the operator
  3. LISTEN to WHERE the operator is listening and his PATTERN of moving his VFO, know where he will listen next!
  4. Learn to use your radio (split/simplex, etc)
  5. Do NOT jump to and call on the frequency of the last station worked. The DX station will NOT hear you because the din is total unintelligible chaos.   Move UP or DOWN from that frequency, as we on our end were continuously tuning up or down after each Q, so if one jumps onto the last-worked frequency, we will not hear you, even if you were the only one there, as we have tuned off.
  6. TURN OFF ALL SPEECH PROCESSORS AND COMPRESSION! Do NOT overdrive ALC.   There is a night and day difference in listening to NA/AS and EU pileups.   The horrible distortion makes it impossible to copy many, if not most EU callsigns.   There were MANY loud stations that we did not work, simply because we could NOT understand their terribly distorted callsign.   Have you ever listened to yourself in a pileup?   We gave many stations a “19” signal report.   Very loud, but extremely unintelligible!   You want to have INTELLIGABILITY, not distortion!
  7. Give your callsign ONCE and ONLY ONCE!   DO NOT KEEP CALLING! We would tune on by those who did not stop calling.   We are looking for RATE and getting stations into the log.   You should be, too!!!
  8. If the DX station comes back with your callsign, DO NOT REPEAT YOUR CALLSIGN, AS WE ALREADY KNOW IT or we would not have answered you.   Many stations (in all modes) would repeat their callsign two, three and even four times!   We only want to hear “5NN” or “59” from you.   Anything else is a total waste of time and CHEATS others out of a chance to get into the log.   Only repeat your callsign if it needs correction, and then let us know it is a correction.   Anything else is cheating others out of a contact, as our propagation windows and time on the island are limited and we need to maximize the opportunity for everyone.   SPEED.
  9. Take some time to listen to the next DXpedition working NA and listen to the rate and rhythm of the operator.   It is fast, quick and efficient, and more people get into the log! Then listen to him work EU.   The wise operator will catch on quickly to what it takes to get into the log!
  10. SPREAD OUT!   Our highest rates (for any continent) were working the edges of the pileup where there was less QRM and weak stations were much easier to work than loud stations in the middle of the pileup.   If we say, “Listening 200 – 210,” 70% of the pileup sits exactly on 200 in an unintelligible din, 25% of the pileup sits on 210 and is almost as bad.   5% of the pileup will be spread out somewhere between 201 and 209, making them very quickly put into the log.   S P R E A D   O U T ! ! ! !
  11. LOUD is NOT better!   MORE AUDIO/COMPRESSION is NOT better!   Finding the spot to be HEARD is the MOST important thing you can do to get into the log. My biggest thrill (and I’m sure on both ends) is finding the lone weak station and getting him into the log quickly.
  12. LISTEN to the DX operator INSTRUCTIONS!   As we would constantly tune our VFO, if we find a clear spot, we would often say, “33” (meaning for YOU to transmit on 14033, 28433, etc) and a few would listen and get into the log very quickly.   You cannot hear these hints if you keep calling calling calling calling………   Many times I would say, “listening 200-210” and after a while would say, “listening 240-250”.   Often 30-45 minutes, even and HOUR later, I would find MANY still calling on the original “200-210”…..of course, they would never show up in our log, as I was not listening there.   LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN and LISTEN SOME MORE.   The less you transmit, the better chance you have of getting into the log.
  13. LISTEN
  14. If you don’t want to get into the DX log, just ignore the above suggestions.

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4- We have seen in the photos publishd on your site that before mounting verticals and directionals antennas, you worked with dipoles. How did so simple antennas work with the pile-up?

What is simple and what is EFFECTIVE?   A high dipole is far more effective than a low beam (of any size).   A dipole is 2.1 (or so) dBi over a vertical and can be up to +15 dBi at height.

We had a full-size 160M sloper at 53M high aimed at EU.   We had a full-size 80M dipole at 50M high broadside to EU.   We had a 40M dipole at 35M and other dipoles at that height or higher for all bands, almost all broadside to EU.   We found these as effective (or better) as the 2-el SteppIR’s at 6M high.   We had no verticals.

At least for the low bands, we had better antennas than 99% of our audience!

Beverages reduced our ambient noise from about S9 to S2, making for very workable conditions.

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5- How did you find the location during your activity (temerature, easy-to-visit, dirty…)?

With rare exception, it was typically very hot.   Some days were quite humid, others were quite tolerable. There was always a very strong breeze, sometimes uncomfortably strong.

The recon photos provided by the U.S. Coast Guard showed what looked like nice smooth grassy areas to set up tents/camp. This could not have been further from the truth.   The ground is extremely uneven and it would have been impossible to set up any op tent in “the grass.”   Jerry, WB9Z, and myself spent hours cleaning out the light house and acetylene house to use as op sites. It was very hot and VERY dirty work.   No matter how hard we both tried to clean up, we never ever felt “clean” until we were able to take a real shower back in Jamaica over two weeks later!   Water was so expensive, we could only sponge bathe on the island.
6- USFWS men, there to control your activity, have been satisfied ?

What a great crew from USFWS!!!! Half of them were biologists studying the island and half were law enforcement, with the duty to protect us and the biologists from any threats. They were extremely helpful in all respects.   Most of us had worked with the same individuals while on Desecheo, so we were with “old friends.”
7- Glenn, tell our readers an episode you’ll never forget about this magnificant adventure ?

Our windows to Asia/Oceana were always short and signals weak, twice a day. We struggled to work these areas and made many happy in AS/OC!   The very last 15 hours of the DXpedition, Jerry, WB9Z, Craig, K9CT, and myself were left behind.   During that time we had the most incredible opening into AS/OC of the entire DXpedition.   The three of us put nearly 9000 more Q’s into the log, the majority of which were AS/OC.   This raised our percent of AS worked by about one percent!

Several times when working EU, I would try to mix in a little NA and announce “give your callsign only once” and found the rates to EU could almost equal that of NA alone. That was rewarding on both ends!

Most of us experienced a “strange” phenomenon.   Usually in a pileup you might hear a weak “Lima Papa”.   I say, “Lima Papa, 59.”   The pileup dies down and “IZ7FLP” is LOUD!

 

This time, most of us noted several times a loud signal and upon answering it, the replying signal was very weak.   Sometimes we worked loud stations on 10M when it was midnight at that QTH.   Sometimes we worked loud stations on 80M, when it would be noon at that QTH.   REMOTE OPERATIONS!!!   Either they were used to get our attention and then to “really” work them from home, or totally illegal and worked us completely through the remote station.   This is going to be an increasing dilemma to deal with…..with the awards.   We log what we hear.

The most difficult part of the adventure was turning off the radio at sunrise on the last day.   The pileups were still huge.   I was not ready to leave…..but please don’t tell that to my wife! Hi hi ! This was by far the most enjoyable DXpedition I’ve ever participated in.   Again, some is because I’ve worked so many years for this opportunity.   Our team was fantastic to be with!

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8- Now K1N is a legend for om in all over the world… now whose turn for P5 ?

I think it will take a special team to get into P5!   Things change in the world and someday, we might hear just another, ho-hum, P5 calling CQ without takers……..

I would like to comment on DXpedition funding.   Even though Navassa is in the “back yard” of North America, the extreme difficulty in access to the island requires a helicopter as the only predictable and safe way to access the island.   The nature of the helicopter business requires money up front and complete payment before completion of a project.   Also, the USFWS regulations now require anyone accessing refuges in the Caribbean and Pacific areas, to pay IN ADVANCE, the costs of accompanying personnel and their transportation.   In this case, these total costs UP FRONT were in excess of $300,000 before we left our homes!   This does not include any DXpedition equipment or infrastructure. Each team member contributed even more to meet these expenses.   We now have all of our “usual” DXpedition expenses to recover, so please be generous when QSLing by whatever means.
To those who donated BEFORE the DXpedition started, your LOTW contacts have already been uploaded. These donors will also get the first of the QSL cards when they go out.   This is our way of saying thanks for helping make this DXpedition possible.   We did not advertise this.

So next time a DXpedition needs support…..hint, hint…..if you want a quick QSL/LOTW, please help them out BEFORE they leave.   There are several very expensive southern ocean and Pacific DXpeditions in the works for the next year who would all be grateful for your support.   These DXpeditions have huge deposits and fees to pay up front before they even begin their journey or set foot on the ground.

73 and THANKS for your support and THANKS for working us at K1N, Navassa Island!!!

 

Glenn W0GJ

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Craig K9CT, Glenn W0GJ & John K6MM (all NCDXF board members) showing off MRE’s in front of the MDXC and NCDXF banners in the MEG tent.
73′ de
IZ7FLP Giovanni Sandionigi
-Cord. Regione Puglia MDXC-
Mediteraneo Dx Club Promoter
MDXC #010 ARMI #356
skype: iz7flp.mobile
e-mail: iz7flp@gmail.com
web site: http://iz7flp.jimdo.com/
Phone: 340/6113897

 

 

 

 

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43 Responses to “K1N Interview for MDXC by W0GJ”

  1. jeroen reijerkerk pd5cw says:

    K1N is not one of the best dx-ex.
    35000 differnt calls is not so verry much
    that is 25 % of all qso’s
    it is to low for nr 1 wanted.
    i have qrv for 2 weeks in day and night but no qso was made.
    nato starded on wensday was bether.
    and i needed the prefix KP1 Not K1 for mij Prefix award.
    hoop to work KP1 about 20 a 25 years !

    • Jeroen,
      I can understand that it is challenging to make a contact with them with 25 watts when so many are calling.
      Maybe you should invest in better antennas? Or upgrade to a full license so you can use more power?
      73 Henk

  2. Ron Smith N7RD says:

    You folks did a bang up job. Being on the west coast I agree we are not as easy to work you guys. The speed and rhythm in which the US ops worked you had to help the numbers. Most folks need to read the 14 points you listed and learn to work with the DX station. Outstanding job.

  3. Frans - PA5F says:

    I’ll thank the ops of K1N. Worked you at 10 & 12M CW with 100W.
    On those bands I cannot use the amp because I live in the center of Rotterdam city and I make very much TVI when I use the amp.
    spent hours on listening and made the TX on the most clean freq on my site.
    Took me on 12m les them 5 min and 20 min on 10m to work you. It was a first in CW for me.
    Thanks guys
    73
    PA5F – Frans

  4. Steve - KE4WI says:

    Great job and congratulations on a job well done. I was able to work you guys on 9 bands with a mixture of 3 modes from Georgia. Thanks for you patience and willingness to put up with a lot of discomfort for the rest of us.
    Best 73
    Steve DeWeil – KE4WI

  5. FANTASTIC… great job. The Pileup instructions are spot on, wish all would follow them. Looking forward to the next rare one.
    Congrats to all involved.
    Tnx for DXCC #289 on CW
    73
    Den W2DEN

  6. Eric Wilson says:

    I reallyappreciate your efforts in activating K1N. You were extremely difficult to work but with great determination and spending hours trying I was able to work you on 20 and 15 meters for an all time new country. Thank you so much for the new country, I am really happy to be in your log. I was very impressed with your great operating skill and you trying to give so many a new country.

    Thank you 73,

    Eric

  7. Mike Bragassa says:

    Excellent DXpedition.
    I appreciate Glenn’s realistic comments. When I op’d from BY1QH years ago, SSB , for me was not desirable as the splatter, etc, was unbearable. I mostly let the club op’s fight the SSB pileups and I spent my time on CW.

  8. Alan Brown says:

    (Huge Effort) X (Effective Team) = BRAVO!!!!

    VY 73,
    Alan…
    K5AB

  9. Douwe, PA1MR says:

    Just like Desecheo this really was a very successful and well managed DX-expedition, congrats to all team members!

    I truly believe that anyone that wanted to work you from Navassa really had a more than fair chance to get into the log.

    Looking at the total result, the amount of cash spend by you all individually and the huge personal efforts you all have put in (prior and during the DX expedition) the only right way us (EU-) HAMs can express ourselves is by thanking you all very much for this FANTASTIC DX expedition!

    Thanks again for #334 in total and #331 in CW (Honor Roll CW!)!

  10. Peter / PA1PVH says:

    Many, many thanks for a ufb dxpedition, I was able to work you guys 8 times, 3 modes, 40 and 15 mtrs cw, in one single call, upgrading my dx honour roll, outstanding job gentlemen thank you.
    A very difficult / expensive / intensive job well done!
    However, sorry you guys had to leave in 2 weeks time, anyway again my sincerest regards.

    DX cluster remarks:
    Yes I made some strong ann/full remarks, according to DQRM, yes I did.

    Also the whining and begging from some operators to get more and more are getting on my tits.
    Or the nitwits who couldn`t work you guys in 2 weeks time, and now complaining and moaning like old women. (see above a novice reply, he should get some operating practise first and his Full license including CW to start with, pffffffff ).
    Some novice operators, who are illegally in K1N logs, should be disqualified for all made qso`s due to out of band operations and using more than 25 watts pep in their operations.
    Dutch Novice Operators may NOT use more than 25 watts pep.
    Dutch Novice operators may NOT operate on 40 mtr cw band, only 7.050 /7.100 mhz.
    This is not the first time, Novice operators don`t comply with the law.

    PA1PVH Peter.

  11. Hannes says:

    Thanks for a new one in CW. The number of unique callsigns in the log is not very impressive, I am sure that many still needed you as an all time new one. I think that perfectly reflects the way DXing is going nowadays. Few stations cannot get enough and need to satisfy their greed by working the DX in all band- and mode ‘slots’ and at the same time lessen the chance of the other who would be satisfied with one qso per band OR mode. Egoboards show this trend very impressive. What surprised me was the ‘suggested minimum donation’ of $ 25 and the fact that in RTTY working split down ruined whole band segments, especially on 17 and 12 meters.

  12. Charly says:

    Thanks for the chase. I wkd you early due to knowing where to call via my bandscope display. 30m RTTY for gosh sakes! No more possible after that for me.

    If I dare a comment, I think it was a mistake to run only 500 watts. Lower power did not allow your signal to OWN your xmit frequency and thus got covered often by stronger sigs calling on top of K1N. We know this will happen and listening from HS, there were many times K1N was drowned out, even the time “I thought” you came back to me on phone.

    I second your insight about really HIGH dipoles, surprising to yagi lovers.

    P.S. the amazing Asian opening at the end did not include latitude 13.

  13. W8LR - Jerry says:

    It took a lot of work but all of my contacts were with 100w or less. My thanks for the operators taking time to stay with a call/contact until it was complete, my contacts included. Now for P5! (LoL)

  14. Delwyn KH6DC says:

    You guys did an awesome job and the world appreciates it very much, thank you.

    73 de Delwyn KH6DC

  15. Bernie says:

    Congratulations for your good job.
    I am against donations from individuals before the DXpedition starts.
    What’s when after the DXpeditin I’m not in the log !
    73

    • Tom N4NW says:

      Bernie,

      The idea of donations is to pay for the DXpedition, not to pay for a QSL!

  16. Tom N4NW says:

    Thank you for coming out and saying what needs to be said about many of the signals coming from EU. Many years ago (25) when I was active as 9Q5NW & TN4NW my greatest frustration was trying to understand and make QSOs with EU stations, with an emphasis on the poorest signals emanating from the Mediterranean region. Not only were the signals distorted 25+ years ago, as I listened to the K1N operation, there has been little if any improvement in signal quality from EU over the years.

    With regard to the ‘exciting’ news that early donors would receive accelerated LotW credit and QSLs sent without further donations via OQRS, the K1N operation feel far short of accomplishing your goals to obtain early donations. Although I made a donation on February 1st, it was not considered sufficiently early enough to qualify for the LotW credit. In my discussions was other DX operators, the consensus is there was no mention of LotW credit until after the conclusion of the operation. A simpler and more effect means of encouraging early donations would be to clearly announce that donors prior to a specific cut-off date would receive the accelerated QSLs. However, you missed that opportunity by keeping the LotW fact a secret until after the end of the operation and never clearly articulated the date that was the cut-off for early donations.

    I completely agree that the majority of stations calling the DX do NOT listen to the instructions. For those of us who do, a successful QSO was the reward, instead of hours attempting a QSO in the huge, unruly pile-ups. Nevertheless, as the DX station, you have the absolute responsibility to control the pile-up and use of 20, 30 or more kilohertz of band for you listening was irresponsible.

    Other than consuming too much band width, the other complaint I, and some of my DX friends share was the excessive speeds of several of the CW operators. While I am able to copy call-signs at 35+WPM, most hams cannot. Therefore, because many were unable to understand what K1N was saying at 35+WPM they only added to the din of disorder attempting to call. Limiting CW transmit to 25WPM would, in my experience, resulted in more successful QSOs than the rates some of your operators were running.

    As someone else commented, whoever decided to use K1N instead of the KP1 prefix, denied the opportunity for those seeking WPX credit. In retrospect using K1N instead of KP1x was a mistake.

    Thank you for the 10 band/mode QSOs, although you were not an ATNO for me as I had Navassa confirmed from the ’74 operation.

    • Chet says:

      I agree about the donations – many of us wait to get our rewards too. Working you and then donating. Hope to get a LoTW confirm soon. KA1ILH

    • Tim says:

      Check with the FCC, unless you have a mailing list on Navassa you will NEVER get a KP1x callsign.

    • Stan - NW5Q says:

      Anyone complaining that they didn’t use a KP1 call is utterly clueless about FCC rules. Only an entity actually living on the island with a mailing address there would be allowed to have a KP1 call. Since the island is a wildlife preserve and no one can ever live there again, there will probably never be another KP1 call. This was clearly explained in numerous articles published about and before the DXpedition. If you worked them, be thankful you scored a rare new one. If you are that worried about WPX, just be aware that you are far more likely to log a P5 than you are to ever log a KP1.
      Stan – NW5Q

  17. Wilf - DJ6TK - says:

    Hi,
    many thanks for 2 new Modes(SSB and RTTY).
    During the last DX Pedition in 1982 I worked them only in CW.
    Good luck for your next Operation,
    Wilf – dj6tk –

  18. Chet says:

    Again many thanks – I wished I knew you folks were on 60 meters – oh well. Got you on CW all bands xcept 2, 6 and 60 meters – loved the hard work to get you in the LARGE spread.
    Received my memorabilia in and made a donation which I hope helps.
    73 to all tnx so much – hope your systems recover from the MREs!
    KA1ILH – Chet

  19. Dan - K3ZXL says:

    You guys did a superb job. Even though I am only 750 miles from KP1 ( SW Florida ), there were times when it was challenging. What I got from this was an ATNO, DXCC No. 327, No. 100 on 6 meters for 10 band DXCC, a new 60 meter country, a new 160 meter country, 11 bands and 23 band slots. I never try to get to the top of the Leaderboard, but I do try to get as many slots as possible so that next time that entity is activated. I do not have to make any more QSOs, just leave it for those who need it.

    The ops were well disciplined, had a good plan to keep DQRM to a minimum, and keep the rate high. I quickly took advantage of the hints given by the ops and later had a good chuckle listening to those who did not hear the hints or heed them.

    And thanks to those team members who were on the K5D Desecheo team. That was also an ATNO here and 6 through 160 meters for me.

    I got damn lucky to get Meteor Scatter QSOs on 6 meters for both expeditions. About fell off my chair when I heard my call come back with a 599.

    We were planning to move to a rental home upon selling our main QTH and I was lucky to convince the buyer to wait a month before closing so that I could snag K1N. I was sweating as it got closer to the start date of k1N for fear of some delay by weather of USFWS or whatever.

    We are now moved, antennas down and in storage until new QTH is built. But still have a multiband vertical at the rental for important DX.

    Thanks again to all.

    Dan K3ZXL

  20. Ken Young says:

    It was great to get a chance to work Navassa and I thank you all very much. That said I noticed I would be listening and every once in a while I would hear someone call on your frequency (which will happened) but then some $&&(;: will jump in at full power and very loud to hurt your ears just say you were on split. Why did they have to be so loud and rude people do make mistakes that is part of it.

  21. Jerry K1JOS says:

    Many thanks for making this possible. In W1 land, the Caribbean ALWAYS comes in booming on any open band (10-40m) with stations running usually barefoot. For some reason though, your signals were among the weakest from that region I heard over the 10 days I was trying to work you. At times, I thought you had generator power problems and were running QRP. Nevertheless, I happily will contribute to the DXpedition and sincerely appreciate the amazing efforts you all went through to make this a reality.

    73 Jerry K1JOS

  22. Mike VE9AA says:

    WOW ! What a great job. Refreshing. I nabbed u on quite a number of band modes. ( I missed 6m but did hear one CQ from the MEG tent…sigh….)(and I work 40+ hours a week) Except for 75m SSB, working you was (almost) easy. The worst part was the QRM on your own frequency from you-know-where, so I often had to stop, wait, and you-guessed-it—listen some more til the DQRM cleared.

    I don’t know what all the complaining is about. I tend to be a little critical of expeditions in general and I could find no fault whatsoever from a highly organized expedition and fabulous on the air operators.

    If anything, I would’ve sped up (SOME) of the CW, but sent some instructions a wee bit slower. In any case, many (most?) don’t listen anyways, so, hi hi…what are ya gonna do?

    I was embarrassed with Hamdom (is that a word?) to hear 2 letter suffix guys calling you on your own QRG and when 100 guys would send “UP” (or DN as the case may be) they were greeted with more simplex calling or else question marks, deer in the headlight stares or whatever. SInce when was operating split difficult? I used to spin the VFO knob on my HW-101 back in the 1970;’s before I had 2 VFO’s….”UP” should be understood universally, but sadly, it still seems to be a mystery to some. Sigh.

    Glenn hit the nail on the head with the word “LISTEN”.

    MAny of my QSO’s were made using either 100w or 500w and a HF9V.
    One night I had three 40-80-160m Q’s inside of 11 minutes thanks to great ops on the K1N side, not my side. (I do listen however).

    I even made several mobile QSO’s ! Listen listen listen!

    Great job guys. No complaints from here in NB.

    CU in the next one.

    Mike VE9AA dit dit

  23. guy va2wt says:

    Thanks for a great expedition and fb opening skills ! I worked them on 40-80 cw with 100 watts and vertical ! Tnx to all the team ,and those who complained need to know this :read carefully what they said about the way you must work a pile ! giving your call twice and more ,pull you out ,because they dont have time to listen half a minute for each stn !

  24. bob steere says:

    This was my first try at a “wanted” dxpedition station. I did make a contact on 20 ssb on the 14th at 2120Z.
    Strangely, I could not get through being very careful using split and short path. Using a tribander at 35 ft with abt 90w. Tried long path and got right through. I am still a bit confused on how to obtain a QSL card.
    Could someone give definitive instructions? The operator I contacted did a wonderful job!

    Harrisonburg, VA
    Rockingham County.

  25. Gary Stone says:

    Thanks for new one for CW. I actually worked you your first hour on 40 CW with 100 watts from a campground RV’ing. That was neat – thanks. 6 months for LOTW is a bummer.

  26. Angelo Selva says:

    Hello guys, I pay a lot of compliments to Navassa dxpedition for the logistical difficulties and also for the excellent operators. The thing that amazed me is “the great split, 30/40 in cw”. I have done some dxpedition but the maximum split was 4/5, I would like to know how you operated in cw, with which filter, this to learn and increase my experience. I fully agree with what you answered to the MDX on the way of operating of the European stations, not very correct, but we have the hot blood … hi..hi … Thanks for the great emotions that you have given us. We will be in contact next time.
    Ciao de Angelo, ik2ckr one of the “Italian Dxpedition Team”

  27. Chris says:

    Great operation you all did however, I must say it would have been nice for you to not mainly work on frequencies outside of those exclusive to extra class HAM operators.

    This is discouraging to the newcomers to the hobby who are unable to work on these frequencies and make contact. I will however continue to work toward my extra class license but it would be nice to support those who are beginners.

    • Mike says:

      “Listen up for non-Extra class hams”

      If the DX did that…no one would upgrade.

      Why upgrade then?

      • guy va2wt says:

        it is absolutely right ! I am on air for nearly 38 years and I had to upgrade twice (1st for ssb,second for sstv and satellite) ham radio is not a gift but a privilege received from a government ! its like working ,you start down the scale and up then !

  28. W4DNR says:

    My first HF operations since 1985.
    In December, I decided to use K1N as a “jump-start”.
    Put up a KT36XA at 35 feet in 25 degree weather.
    100 watts / fewer than ten calls / in the log 10/15/20.
    Super signals into EM64. Thanks Guys !!!

    ps….
    I don’t remember hearing as many NA stations ( Extras ? )
    calling on the DX frequency back “in-the-day”.

    Seems that no one understands “listening 230-240”. ( sigh )

  29. Duncan McMahon says:

    On behalf of my fellow Dxer’s in Oceania, thanks for taking a few minutes every now and then to listen for VK/ZL and Oceania. ZL is further away from KP1 than Moscow is, and VK east coast another 2500 km away. You every endeavour to listen for us down under was really appreciated! Well done for a great DXpedition.

    73 ZL3JT

  30. Good interview. I like the answer on question 3.
    It was challenging to hear K1N because of the DQRM and all the people signing UP or other texts. Happy to have worked you on 160, 80, 40 and 20.
    73 Henk

  31. Chet says:

    When can people who donated expect a confirm via LoTW?
    tnx
    KA1ILH

    • guy va2wt says:

      excellent comment ! why people doesn’t fund expedition b4 to get Lotw ?? In fact the fantastic four operation was in 1992 !

  32. Ron St.Laurent says:

    I hope our bi-lingual friends will translate your 14 points and disseminate the information to the world-wide ham community. Kudos for a job very well done.

    Ron ND5S

  33. Cy Stanway says:

    First of all, congratulations on a job well done. Your efforts made many, many people very happy, including me.

    Having said that, I think I agree with some of the comments about the ‘hoarders’ of QSOs who tried to work each mode and each band. (I am one of them, by the way, and I must say that, given what I know now, I would not be.) 35K QSOs out of more than 130K is a very low ratio. Whoever’s idea it was to operate ANTO should get a medal. Totally brilliant. Maybe you are all on to something: whenever there is a huge DXpedition, BEGIN with ANTO and put people in the log ONLY once – period. If, at the end of the DX-pedition, there are too many repeats, then maybe permit multi band, multi mode contacts. This way future DXpeditiions can split the joy: more unique calls while the hoarders are kept at bay. Something to think about.

    In any event, you guys did a marvelous job and deserve amazing credit. Congratulations.

    Rabbi Cy Stanway, K2CYS

  34. Brad says:

    Fantastic DXpedition guys!!! Before the operation began I had hoped for at least one QSO for an all time new one. How could I not be happy since 17 meters was the only band that I failed to make a QSO. I run a modest station: Elecraft K3 running 90 watts to a 135 foot dipole from NH. And I love QRP so was absolutely elated on the last day to work you with 5 watts on 10 meter SSB. I couldn’t believe the number of folks tuning up on K1N’s transmitting frequency! EU stations don’t know the meaning of “UP.” Your efforts to make over 140K QSO in the extreme HEAT cannot be overemphasized!! Kudos to all on the island making it a great chase for us on the mainland. Tnx for QRO country number 317 and QRP number 183.

  35. Jeff Dwyer says:

    I made 2 contacts , one from my car on 10m , the other from my little apartment with a buddypole INSIDE MY APARTMENT on 20M !

    I just waited on ONE frequency and gave my call once (or twice) , took me 3 attempts on 20 and about the same on 10 .

    Took me about a week to find the time and luck but I did it with modest operating conditions .